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Here is the link to our brand new YouTube video, titled, "The Mysterious Seven Thunders"...
Want to see The Book of the Revelation from the Grace "point of view", through the Eyes of Grace?? In this video, John begins to delve into the Mysterious Seven Thunders, as mentioned in the 10th chapter of The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ; showing the general theme of each of the Seven Thunders, and how the 7-fold Spirit of Christ and the 7-fold spirit of anti-Christ are linked to these themes. This is all from the viewpoint of The Book of the Revelation being (in John's own words) "A Big Ol' Grace Sandwich"... Enjoy!
Here is the link to our latest YouTube video, titled, "7 x 6 = '42': The Number Signifying Christ's 'Coming' or 'Appearing' in a Physical Body:-)!"
In this powerful video, John explains the significance of the Biblical number, "42"; by showing how The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is structured around 7-different divisions or segments, each containing 6-different elements. And it ALL relates to the fulfillment or manifestation of the Great Mystery... which is none other than, "Christ IN YOU, the Hope of GLORY"! Hope you enjoy! Love & blessings...
Here is the link to another, brand new, YouTube video of ours, titled, "The Book of the Revelation: Linear View vs. Multi-Dimensional View".
Hope you enjoy! Love and blessings...
Here is the link to our brand new YouTube video, titled, "Ephesus: What is the 'First Love'? What are the 'First Works'?"
Hope you enjoy! Love and blessings...
Here is the link to our latest, chock-full-of-revelatory-truth, loaded, YouTube video:
John discusses the First Church mentioned in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ: Ephesus. From where did they fall? What is the "first works"? How many things did they become guilty of practicing, as a result? How does "Ephesus" pertain unto us, today? Enjoy! Love & blessings...
Since around 2000, there have been about 200 songs and melodies which have come into our hearts. The Lord has enabled me to work out most of this music on electric guitar. Today, I just felt led to share the lyrics of this particular song, "Between Me & You", which the Lord gave to us, just under a year ago. Seems fitting for the theme we are writing about these days, and ties in well to all we have been sharing out of The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ for the past three years.
Also, for those of you who are interested, we are now posting the audio messages from our weekly, public meetings to our website at: www.todaysvoice.org. Simply go to the website and click on the link "Shop Online", on the far right-hand side at the top of our homepage. You can choose either the audio-download or a CD (through mail). The message from June 12th is already up, and the rest of June and what we have in July, so far, will be available for download sometime this coming week. So, please check back frequently.
"June 12th" is the message regarding the First of the Seven Churches in The Book of the Revelation, Ephesus. Please note: this is not a "historical study"; but a revelation. There is a major difference. Also, we are going to begin incorporating some more of this music in the actual recordings of the meetings/messages. Hope you enjoy, and that this is all a blessing to you.
~John & Kelly
"Between Me & You" ~ (c) 10/05/2015
by John & Kelly Sielski (ASCAP).
All rights reserved.
We claim that we know He loves us,
And we acknowledge that... we love Him, too.
If all of these things be really true,
Then where is this same Love between me and you?...
Where is this same Love between me and you?...
Modern-day "christianity" has become not much more
Than mere entertainment and amusement for the selfish soul,
In all of our stalemate over "truth" ("Who's truly wrong or right?"),
We've forgotten how to love, and now we just argue, fuss and fight!
Revelation, chapter 8, begins with, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets." Throughout The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, there is mention of an "hour of judgment". These are prophetic or symbolic terms. This does not mean that our loving, Heavenly Father is going to destroy Planet Earth in 60-minutes; any more than Jesus meant for us, literally, to pluck out our eyeballs, cut off our hands, or hack off our feet... should they cause us to offend! This might very well upset people, but Jesus says His words are "spirit" and "life"; meaning... they are not meant to be taken literally, from our natural mind's point of view. Ruh-roh! We really do need to study and meditate the Scriptures; so that we can rightly divide the word of truth, between the Law of Moses (dead letter) versus the Grace & Truth of Jesus Christ (spirit). We have time for Netflix, don't we?
Could it be that one reason why there is "silence in heaven" for about the space of "half an hour", is because there is a glorious absence of a pure, true, Heavenly-Corporate Voice? There has most definitely been a mixed, "dazed and confused" Corporate Voice... for sure! Therefore, it is no great wonder, as Peter says, "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." Why? For what purpose? Could it be that the role of these Seven Angels is to help "bring forth" that Pure & Heavenly-Corporate Voice, "...as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings"? Have we ever realized that these Seven Angles, who are given Seven Trumpets, are the very same Seven Angels of the Seven Churches; who are mentioned in Revelation, chapters 2 & 3? What qualifies them to receive Seven Trumpets? What are these mysterious Seven Trumpets? What happens when these Trumpets begin to "sound"?
Come and join us for a wonderful time of fellowship and fresh revelation, tomorrow morning... Sunday, July 3rd @ 10AM at The Inn at Reading... as we will begin exploring the depths of the "sounding" of the First Trumpet. Are literal hail and fire mingled with blood, going to fall out of the sky and onto the ground? Or, do these things mean something else? Is God going to count every third tree, and burn it up with fire? Is God mad at the trees? If so, how have they offended Him? What is their sin? Come on! What, all of the sudden, God hates green grass? Then number one, why did He bother creating it; and number two, how dare we feed our lawns! You know that we are just kidding, right, being sarcastic? One of the proofs of self-righteousness is an absence of a good sense of humor. We look forward to seeing you there, and then (at The Inn)! Love & blessings...
Revelation 8: 1-7 (KJV)
1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
1 Peter 4: 17 (KJV)
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Revelation 1: 10, 11; 22: 21 (KJV)
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
21 The [**TRUE**] grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
2 Timothy 1: 15 (KJV)
15 [*Paul writing unto Timothy...] This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
Just wanted to let you all know that, right now at this very moment, we are working on getting the audio messages from our public meetings posted to our website at: www.todaysvoice.org. Within the next week or two, you will be able to download, through our website, everything we are sharing in our weekly, public meetings. This includes all of the revelatory teachings revolving around The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ; as well as, all of the other "goodies" which the Lord has enabled us to impart, regarding the differences between the Old Covenant vs. the New Covenant, the Old Man vs. the New Man, the Law of Moses vs. the Grace & Truth of Jesus Christ, the Covenant of the Slave vs. the Covenant of the Son, the Hearer's Covenant vs. the Seer's Covenant, the Harlot vs. the Bride, Babylon vs. the Lamb's Wife, and so-on and so-forth, etc., etc., etc... We'll keep you posted as to when everything is finally up and running! Hope you enjoy! Love and blessings...
The White Horse Rider in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is not that infamous anti-Christ, as is commonly taught by and through our dead denominations and traditions; nor is he carrying "a bow and arrows". Think about it (*it is not a sin for us to think, for us to actually use some of that "grey matter" in our noggins:-), how could the Lamb's opening the First Seal on His Book of Life... on the Volume (or Fullness) of His very own Resurrection Life within us... loose the anti-Christ to go forth and "conquer the world"? The anti-Christ spirit has been here, now, for a very long time; and he is doing just fine, a real "bang up job" at making a mess of things. Just take a brief look around the world. Furthermore, is Christ a house divided against Himself? Nonsense! The Greek word for "bow" is "toxon" and signifies "a ribbon of fabric", used to make a bow for gift-wrapping. Here is a more in-depth definition for "bow" or "toxon" (from Strong's Concordance): "a bow (as the simplest of fabrics or materials); also, to produce from seed (as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), it can also mean (literally or figuratively) to bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, or be in travail". Could it be that the White Horse Rider signifies an "unveiling" and/or "unwrapping" of a particular Gift... who has been hiding within us, all along; the result of which (said) "unveiling" or "unwrapping", brings forth or produces the manifestation of Great Glory, even the very Glory of God? So, come and join us for a wonderful time of fellowship and fresh (meaning "not the same old, stale stuff") revelation, this coming Sunday morning, June 19th @ 10AM at The Inn at Reading; as we will continue to delve into the mystery and meaning of The First Thunder, as noted in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, Chapter 10. "Come and see"... what, specifically, and how the White Horse Rider actually conquers in us; and then, goes forth to conquer in others. And, where does he obtain that crown which "was given unto him"? We look forward to seeing you there! Love and blessings...
Revelation 6: 1, 2 (KJV)
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
There was a very strong and "unusual" presence yesterday morning, during our weekly, public meeting. He began manifesting even before the meeting began... and that, with no praise & worship or "bombarding the gates" through "fasting & prayer" or "intercession". (I swear, most of the time we are doing that stuff just to "wind up" and impress ourselves and one another; so as to avoid having to be transparent with one another!) The Lord opened up, in a profound and powerful way, the revelation of the Ephesian Church, and of the Angel of the Church of Ephesus. The CD-copy is now available for order, if any of you are interested. Just contact us and let us know.
Also, we wanted to throw this "out there", just so that it is "said"... It has been on our hearts, for quite some time now to start Home Fellowship Groups all over the country. We don't care where, meaning "how far away from 'good-ole Reading, PA'", just as long as there is a sincere and open heart-motivation. We don't have time for games, nor will we put up with them. But we are greatly aware that there is a genuine hunger and thirst for something far deeper than the mere, external, superficial, politically- and racially-charged, "believe-it-and-confess-it", "name-it-and-claim-it", Amercian "gospel" of "end-time event-doom & gloom".
We don't believe that Christ needs much "spiritual foreplay". But what freedom there is for Him to move in a simple, relaxed, "dressed down" environment; where we can all come together in a safe and loving atmosphere... simply to talk with one another and fellowship around the things that pertain to the Lord Jesus Christ, and to the revelation of "Christ in us"! Where all questions are "fair game", and where there is no such thing as any "stupid question".
Over the past nearly 20-years, we have ministered in big churches, small churches, fire houses, hotel meeting rooms, ballrooms, several tent meetings, home groups of other ministries, so-on and so-forth, etc., etc., etc... We have also been around some "big name ministries". And it is very sad and disturbing for us to say that we have found very, very, very few (closer to absolutely zero...) places where the difference between the Old Covenant vs. the New Covenant, the Old Man vs. the New Man, the Law of Moses vs. the Grace & Truth of Jesus Christ (much less, The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ!) is clearly understood and being ministered. Most of it all is just a bunch of Mixture and Confusion, in true keeping with Babylon's name.
Most Christian people we hear from are slaves to their own computer screens, bewildered about where to go for true fellowship, and we know why! Believe me, you don't have to explain it to us! We have been given the "left foot of fellowship" from more "christian circles" and so-called "apostolic & prophetic camps" than at which we can "shake a stick". In the next three years, a lot of the "old money" in the Church is going to begin dying out, being removed; and along with them, a lot of their manipulative and abusive control tactics which they've employed over the years, to continue building their own kingdoms which bear their own names. [And I speak here (particularly) of influential, "christian" ministers and "christian" business-men and business-women, both on national and local/"grass-roots" levels.] There is a "Warfare Generation" which is soon to be "circumcised" from the Body of Christ; so that the rest of us can more fully enjoy the Revelation of Christ and the Fullness of Our Inheritance, of His Manifest Glory... in and through one another.
As far as the Home Fellowship Groups go, contact us if you are interested. The only thing that we will do is receive a love-offering, for travel expenses, as all of what we do here at Today's Voice is brought to you all through the love, generosity and support of folks with big-loving hearts. There is no such thing as "free ministry". "Free ministry" = No Relationships + No Personal Fellowship. If you live in the Reading, PA region... this week's Home Fellowship Group will be Wednesday, June 15th @ 7PM in Shillington, PA. The address of the meeting: 302 Mifflin Blvd., Shillington, PA 19607. Hope to see you there! Sincerely, with love and blessings...
The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is a spiritual book, which is precisely why most well-meaning believers don't... and really can't... understand the book; because (in general) most of us live with, and operate out of, a "spirit of mind" or "attitude of heart" that remains bound and limited to both our natural mind's perception of things and our earthly identity, given to us by our earthly parents. A few years ago, and after several years of reading, studying and meditating The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ... over, and over, and over again (*The Lord had prompted me, in my heart to, "Take, and eat The Book.")... I began to see that The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ has a "framework" (structure) to it... that it "rests" on a "structure" or "framework"... which can be broken down further into seven different "divisions"; and that, each of these seven "divisions" contains and revolves around a "central theme" within that "division".
Also, I began to take notice of how there are six different "elements" within each of these seven "divisions"; or, another way we can say it is that, each of these seven "divisions" consists of six different "elements" which revolve around a "central theme", specific to that "division". (*At first, I didn't realize that they... what I was actually seeing into... were the mysterious "Seven Thunders", as noted in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, chapter 10!) Why are these numbers so important? Because 7 "divisions" x 6 "elements" (in each "division") = "42". The number "42" (# of months in 3 1/2 years) occurs throughout The Book of the Revelation; and within the Canon of Scripture, the number "42" signifies not only the "coming" or "appearing" or "parousia" of Christ... in a Physical Body, but also... all of the testing, trials and tribulations associated with that "revelation" or "unveiling". In the Old Testament, Israel set up camp 42-times in the wilderness, under Moses' leadership; after which, said "42nd time", Joshua (type of "Jesus" or "Yehoshua") "comes" or "appears" to take over the reins of Israel, and leads them into the Promised Land (Father's Manifest Glory).
In Matthew 1:17, we read, "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." What is 14 + 14 + 14, or 14 x 3? "42"... Likewise, in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, "42" signifies the "coming" or "appearing" or "parousia" of Christ... in a Physical Body; but in this case, WE ARE THAT BODY: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones." There is a Great Mystery waiting to be "unveiled" on Planet Earth, which is none other than, "Christ IN YOU, the Hope of Glory"! WE ARE THE CLOUDS... in whom, by whom, through whom and with whom... He "comes" to reveal Himself to the whole world! WE ARE THE HORSES & "AGENTS" OF THE "APOCALYPSE"... His "divine vehicles" and "carriers" and "conduits" upon whom HE "RIDES"! For the love of Jesus Christ, and all that is Holy, would someone please... simply... look up the Greek definition of the word "apocalypse"?!?! "APOCALYPSE" DOES NOT MEAN "THE END OF THE WORLD"; OR EVEN, "THE UNVEILING OF THE ANTI-CHRIST"!! "Apocalypse" means "to remove the veil" and "to take off the cover"; so that the whole world can finally see that Divine Stowaway who has been hiding onboard... within us, all along... even, "Christ IN YOU, the Hope of Glory"!!
So, come and join us for a wonderful time of fellowship and fresh revelation, this coming Sunday morning... June 12th, 2016 @ 10AM at The Inn at Reading... as we will be delving further into the mystery and meaning of The First Thunder, as noted in The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, Chapter 10; along with all 6 of its "elements" which revolve around its "central theme"! If you hunger and thirst for a much, much deeper level of fellowship with your Heavenly Father, and long to experience a greater "unveiling" of the Christ in you, then these informal and non-religious gatherings are for you. We look forward to seeing you there! Love & blessings...
Revelation 10: 1-4 (KJV)
1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write [*explain] them not.
Psalm 81: 6-10 (KJV)
6 I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots [*in Egypt].
7 Thou calledst in trouble, and I delivered thee; I answered thee in the secret place of thunder: I proved thee at the waters of Meribah. Selah.
8 Hear, O my people, and I will testify unto thee: O Israel, if thou wilt hearken unto me;
9 There shall no strange god be in thee; neither shalt thou worship any strange god [*including your-"self"!].
10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.